When Adolf Hitler said, "By killing the Jews, I am carrying out God's work," and had his soldiers wear belt buckles that read "God with Us," this clearly demonstrated that he was an atheist.
But Albert Einstein, who said "I do not believe in a personal god," was actually a Christian.
Have I got that right?
Let me get this straight about these two guys (details) -- ?
Jesus Alva Hasselhoff, that's some messed up sh*t right there!
Reply:"Christians" are simply not concerned with truth. They're concerned with "Truth," as in the Jesus fish eating the Darwin fish. Outrageous lies are perfectly fine as long as they're "for Jesus." "Jesus" himself is an outrageous lie. Wasn't there some Pope who said "It has served us well, this fable of Christ"?
Hitler was an iconoclastic kind of "Christian," to say the least. He really conceived of himself as the leader of a new cult based on some truly nutty ideas about the "Aryans." Einstein was ethnically Jewish, but his personal theism/agnosticism is summed up in his oft-quoted statement that "I believe in Spinoza's God, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind."
Reply:congratulations hypocrite....your claim that God is an invisible skydaddy is just as ridiculous as the people you're singling out.
Reply:Hello sweet weemaryanne,again.. :)
To be a Christian means to be Christ Like..Jesus said we are to Love our enemies..we are not to repay evil for evil..
Hitler's actions toward others were not at all like Christ.. :(
Though Albert Enstein was not a "believer in Christ" he did say this to a friend of his:
Viereck began by asking Einstein whether he considered himself a German or a Jew. "It's possible to be both," replied Einstein. "Nationalism is an infantile disease, the measles of mankind."
Should Jews try to assimilate? "We Jews have been too eager to sacrifice our idiosyncrasies in order to conform."
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To what extent are you influenced by Christianity? "As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene."
You accept the historical existence of Jesus? "Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."
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Do you believe in God? "I'm not an atheist. I don't think I can call myself a pantheist.
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The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws."
Is this a Jewish concept of God? "I am a determinist. I do not believe in free will. Jews believe in free will. They believe that man shapes his own life. I reject that doctrine. In that respect I am not a Jew."
Is this Spinoza's God? "I am fascinated by Spinoza's pantheism, but I admire even more his contribution to modern thought because he is the first philosopher to deal with the soul and body as one, and not two separate things."
Do you believe in immortality? "No. And one life is enough for me."
Einstein tried to express these feelings clearly, both for himself and all of those who wanted a simple answer from him about his faith. So in the summer of 1930, amid his sailing and ruminations in Caputh, he composed a credo, "What I Believe," that he recorded for a human-rights group and later published. It concluded with an explanation of what he meant when he called himself religious: "The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion that stands at the cradle of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead, a snuffed-out candle. To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is something that our minds cannot grasp, whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly: this is religiousness. In this sense, and in this sense only, I am a devoutly religious man."
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You can the whole story: It is from Time Magazine
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/articl...
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In Jesus Most Precious Name..
With Love..In Christ.. :)
ADDITIONAL: Gee, thumbs down..I did not write the story Times Magazine did..
But I Still Love you anyways.. :)
Reply:Pheonix Wright: Hitler was Catholic?.......Figures.
Reply:LOL
Reply:No, Einstein was never a christian but did believe in God. He didn't accept the christian idea about God per se, but stuck with the more Jewish concept of God. Einstein was Jewish.
"The human mind is not capable of grasping the Universe. We are like a little child entering a huge library. The walls are covered to the ceilings with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written these books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. But the child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books---a mysterious order which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects." -Albert Einstein
"All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. All these aspirations are directed toward ennobling man's life, lifting it from the sphere of mere physical existence and leading the individual towards freedom." - Albert Einstein
Reply:This appears to be evidence that denial is a key component of faith. And when there's more knowledge available, it's logic that there is more denial and ignorance in practice. Hence, we get the condition where theists deny their ignorance and ignore their denial.
Reply:They both lied.
That's in the history books too.
Reply:Am I the only one who is in love with Einstien? I can't get enough of him. lol
Do people actually believe that?
Reply:Hitler was a fool...
this is not history of Unreligious ppl here
Reply:In Hitler’s words “the heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity” (Hitler, 1953, p. 6). The Jesuits were “swine,” and all of Christianity was “Jewish Christianity” which was comparable with “Jewish Bolshevism.” Hitler concluded that both were evil and both had to be destroyed (Kershaw, 2000, pp. 330, 488). His reasoning was based on his belief that Christianity was an “illegitimate” Jewish child and, as a Jewish child, was swine like its parent that must be eradicated. Hitler considered Christianity the “invention of the Jew Saul” (Azar, 1990, p. 154).
More documents that prove Nazi’s planned to “eliminate Christianity and convert its followers to an Aryan philosophy” are now on the online version of Rutgers Journal of Law and Religion
Albert Einstein believed in God but was not a Christian.
Although never coming to belief in a personal God, he recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Reply:Einstein was agnostic and Hitler was most definitely christian
Reply:"Gott Mit Uns" Was on WWI belt buckles not WWII.
AH was not a Christian although, as a youth, he was a alter-boy in the Catholic Church. When he was old enough to make decisions about his soul he was a confirmed anti-Semite. This was prevalent in European society. Hitler did not invent hatred of the Jews. It is (not was) deeply engrained in the German soul.
Every ten years the Passion Play in Oberammergau tells the story of Christ's death on the cross and has for over 150 years.
You comments are obviously anti-Christian but your level of knowledge in this area is lacking.
Reply:Einstein was never a christian. But you knew that.
Reply:No. Albert Einstein was agnostic (sorry fellow atheists, I've done a lot of research on it). But no, Hitler was Catholic.
edit: Sweet satire. You can never tell on this forum.
Reply:I'm not sure about Einstein but Hitler was a wacko, personally I think the though he himself was god. Just because Hitler said that doesn't mean there is any truth in his words. I wouldn't trust anything a mass murderer said if I was you.
Many people claim to love God or be a Christian but they aren't. They are just trying to bring shame/embarrassment to Christ.
Reply:Don't know about Hitler but...........................
In 1950, in a letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."
Reply:ROFL
What did you expect from people who think snakes talk, dinosaurs were on some ark with Noah and the Earth is less than 10,000 years old?
Reply:You are correct. All good people ever were christian. All bad people ever were atheists. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
Reply:In order to be a Christian, you have to accept Jesus as your savior and lord. Believe he is the son of God and was crucified and rose from the dead. You must want to adhere to the teachings of Christ and imitate Christ's character and qualities. We are all flawed human beings so we WILL make mistakes and sin. You can say you are a Christian and not be one. Only God knows the "real" heart. I can say, based on what they proclaimed and what they did that Hitler and Einstein were probably not Christians in the real sense of the word. Based on what I have written, how can anyone be a Christian and murder or say that they do not believe in a personal God? It takes common sense to figure that one out.
Reply:Hitler was born and raised Catholic, when he was older he rejected Catholicism but was still Christian. He saw Jesus as a fighter of the Jews....
Einstein was Jewish...not Christian.
so no, you don't.
Reply:yah... that sounds like christian logic there.
dont worry it doesnt make sense to the rest of the world either.
its really not so different from the common christian claims like, "god loves uncoditionally" but only under the condition u love him first.
or god hates sin. but whoever hates is committing murder, and murder is a sin... *shrug* (plus all those in the bible god commanded to be murdered...)
Reply:Still living in the past.
Reply:Well, the first is a lie. Hitler denounced his Christianity at an early age.
"In later life, Hitler often praised the Christian heritage, German culture, and a belief in Christ. But his private statements, as reported by his intimates, are more mixed, showing Hitler as a religious man but also critical of Christianity."
Bullock, A. Hitler: A Study in Tyranny, 389
So, in other words, Hitler SAID he was a Christian, but privately renounced it. Get your facts straight.
---And, although Einstein was no Christian, he DID believe in God, which is much more than you atheists can say.
Reply:Sorry the only one who knows the condition of a person's heart is God, so I don't have the answer for you.
Reply:The devil can cite scripture for his purpose...Shakespeare
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